User talk:Canopus Grandiflora

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Your signature

Signing talk page messages with statements such as "Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves!" is really not appropriate. Most people won't get the joke. Revent^talk 05:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Signature

Please use a consistent signature. While it is OK to have a sig that does not match the user name, confusing ones are not allowed. Commons:Signatures, which is official policy, says, among other things:

" The signature must unambiguously identify the author of a comment and must link to the user page, the user talk page or the user's contributions. The customized signature should be designed in a way that does not impair the readability of the page." [emphasis added].

Therefore, all of:

"A mindless worker is a happy worker"

"I'll have to check my program"

"You are paid to think. A mindless worker is a happy worker"

are prohibited on the grounds that they both are ambiguous and impair the readability of the page.

.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:12, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Blocked

I also note that there is an account User:Bender Bending Rodriguez, whose name differs from this one only by the accent over the "i". Since most of us cannot type í on our keyboards, many will make the mistake I did and place messages on the wrong talk page.

Policy prohibits confusing usernames:

" Usernames like "Dasdpoieqdmcoiaq" that are random characters, or are too similar to other contributor's usernames, or confusing for other reasons can be blocked, but the user should usually be allowed to register under a new name." [emphasis added] (see Commons:Username_policy#Confusing_usernames)

If you are the same person, you must use the older account. If not, then you must open a new account. In either case, you may no longer use this account and I have blocked it.

.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: I do not own the other account, and yes Alt + 0237 produces í. If my signature is causing trouble, tell me. But, the other user, User:Bender Bending Rodriguez has made three edits here and the last edit of that user was in June 2012. In no was I am trying to impersonate the other user, and I am ready to mention that on my talk. Bender Bending Rodríguez is a perfect Spanish name and blocking the account only for the reason that í is not found on the keyboards used in the English speaking countries is not okay.

1. Promotional usernames: I do not think I am promoting anything using my username.
2. Disruptive usernames: My username is not used for trolling or for personal attacks. I have only used this account to nominate non-free media for deletion which I believe is towards the betterment of the project.
3. Misleading usernames: My username does not create an impression that I have an authority which I do not have. Also, the difference of the character must not stop me from editing since that user account has been inactive on this project for half a decade.
4. Offensive usernames: My username does not prevent harmonious edits as the work I do on Wikimedia Commons hardly mentions my username, but it mentions the punchlines of Bender, which I am ready to change.

You are paid to think. A mindless worker is a happy worker 🍺💲🚬 16:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

As I noted above, usernames can be blocked that "are too similar to other contributor's usernames". These two are so similar that it takes a very close look to see that they are not the same. It does not matter that the other user is dormant -- your name will inevitably be confused with the other one (as it has already confused me). However, I will call this to the attention of several experienced colleagues -- Yann, User:Ellin Beltz, Krd, Hedwig, what do you think about this? .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Borderline case IMHO. I tend to weak support unblock. --Krd 18:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Can they ask usurpation of the other account? I can't find the last policy about this. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe -- as a bureaucrat, I should probably know, so I'll do the research tomorrow. However,it may be moot -- see below. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Yann, Krd, Ellin, Hedwig, I find an additional complication here. Apparently Bender Bending Rodríguez is a well known (but not to me, obviously) fictional robot. If Rodríguez were a human celebrity, policy clearly prohibits a user taking that name unless it is actually his own name. Policy is less clear about whether users may take the name of fictional characters, robots or not, but it seems to me it falls under the prohibition on confusing names. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

 Oppose If that's not too close then I don't know what is. And yes, it technically violates the username policy, someone could think it's an official account used by the Futurama creators. Anyway, Bender with the strange i should be renamed if unblocked. I personally don't want to have to hack alt-0XYZ into the keyboard in order to be able to address someone . The other Bender has a few edits here on Commons (last: 21:04, 8. Apr. 2010) and on PT-wiki (last: 06:53, 13. Jun. 2012), see Special:CentralAuth/Bender_Bending_Rodriguez. IMHO rename is the only viable option. You can request a rename here: [1]. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 01:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

í is also available in the Latin Alphabet under the special characters and there are editors whose username contains special characters which are generally not found on the QWERTY keyboard. Those usernames were not blocked.

There are other users who have special characters in their username, which does not result in a block. Also, there are other usernames of famous fictional characters which were not blocked. (Philip J Fry, Philip J. Fry^{very similar usernames}, Lord Voldemort, Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Darth Wader, The Wizard of Oz, Naruto, Yoda, Ben 10, Professor Farnsworth, Garfield, The Dark Lord, Newt Scamander, Neville Longbottom, Dementor, Spider-Man, Superman...)("Hedwid in Washington" mentions the famous owl from the Harry Potter universe). These usernames of famous characters spent their time on Wikimedia projects and some retired but were not asked to be renamed.

While the other Bender has just three edits here, and has more edits on Portuguese Wiki, why can't we ask that account to be renamed (Bender Bending Rodrigues~ptwiki)?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bender Bending Rodríguez (talk • contribs) 07:00, 02 January 2017 (UTC)

• Signing your posts is required on talk pages and it is a Commons policy to sign your posts on deletion requests, undeletion requests, and noticeboards. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and a timestamp will then automatically be added when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). Thank you.

Again, although the special character and the fact that it is a character's name are contributing factors, the main reason you cannot use this name is that is almost identical to a name already in use. The fact that the other name has had limited use is irrelevant. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:45, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

But as Yann said, can we rename the other account to Bender Bending Rodrigues~ptwiki? Also, I do not think the users with renaming rights would rename my account since I was renamed very recently.
You are paid to think. A mindless worker is a happy worker 🍺💲🚬 14:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I support the block on this account placed by Jim. In addition to what has been stated and discussed above that this user name is from a copyrighted work, that it is one character different than an older account, and so on. The blocked user account is new but not new. I looked at the history of contributions and I find a user who appears fully aware of how to use the system from day one which is not usually how new users arrive and behave. Changing user signature to cute little characters usually takes someone a few weeks, first to see someone else doing it and then to figure it out for themselves. Here I see someone who changes their signature constantly making it hard to see that it is them; although once the pattern has been seen, then it is obvious who the puppetmaster is of all those names. The name itself refers to a copyrighted entity, and that is known to the user as it was specified in one of his first contributions, see Commons:Deletion requests/Bender's photos, specifically "Bender Bending Rodríguez from Futurama is copyrighted material of 20th century FOX and Comedy Central." A review of the user's upload history shows that the user has no file uploads and reading the account history shows that the account exists primarily to put comments on deletion requests and user talk pages. This is not the usual behavior of a truly new user; the selection of a game-name, the instant ability to apply multiple deletion nominations[2], strange messages on user page and summaries [3], the coding ability of someone who has been here before[4] and so on. That other names of this type exist is not cogent to the discussion of this single case and as stated before, the user knew it was copyright when chosen and used. I do not see any reason to restore this user's access to this account. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

1. Long story short, I am familiar with the Wiki Markup because I have edited Wikipedia a couple of years ago. I did not have an account then. I am also interested in free and open-source software which is the primary reason I spend so much time reading about various licenses — not accurately always, I am not a lawyer.
2. Bender of Futurama is copyrighted so the Derived Works of Bender is not allowed on commons, but the name Bender is not copyrighted.
3. I have changed my signature multiple times, all of which links to my talk page. But I have nominated media for deletion which were copyrighted / not free, and have participated in discussion whether or not to keep the media on Commons. Uploading media is not the only way to contribute, I feel. Commons need people who care about the copyright as well, and second reason why I have not uploaded anything is because I do not have a phone with a camera to take photos at the moment. I have added new sections manually to (as far as I remember) two users, both of them are admins. Other edits are automated, when I nominate a media for deletion using gadget. My primary aim has been to check only free media is available on Commons in the last two weeks.
4. The strange edit summaries pointed out by the admin are the punchlines Bender used to say.
5. I have spent a lot of time on Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia mainly), thus I know how various templates work. Adding some HTML tags/ CSS is not very difficult. So much of semi-automated work is maintained by the templates, substituted or not.
6. I don't see anyone having some knowledge of licenses being questioned and how is this preventing the unblock request. Everyone else participates/ nominates/ votes media for deletion/undeletion, and I did the same. Why are the Bender punchlines I use in comments/signs affecting?
   You are paid to think. A mindless worker is a happy worker 🍺💲🚬 18:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

What I have sensed is that my block has more than one centers.

• Username similar to an old editor.
• Use of Bender's punchlines in comments and signatures.
• Modification of signatures.
• Knowledge about licence and Wiki Markup.

Since I received a message from an admin that "I wish everyone else was dead" would not be appropriate for those who doesn't understand the joke, I have tried to limit those edit summaries to my use space. If the modification of the signatures to oftenis an issue, which is, if I recall correctly, mildly discouraged on Wikipedia, is an issue, I am ready to use one consistently. Having knowledge of Wiki Markup and the license is not a bad thing I believe. I have worked for the betterment of the project. The "strange" comments are hiding the work that I have done so far. I have nominated (about 20+ ?) media for deletion and participated in the discussion. In doubt, I also emailed toureiffel.paris about the copyright issues. I'd that not counted as working on the project? And finally, username. I was renamed less than a month ago. Instead of preventing me from editing, why can't I get an answer for: Why can't we rename the other account who is barely editing any Wikimedia projects, appending ~ptwiki to the username and allow me to edit again? Also, how fair is this that somebody who wants to contribute is blocked from editing for having similar username to that of another editor who barely edited on the project that too, six years ago?
You are paid to think. A mindless worker is a happy worker 🍺💲🚬 20:25, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Since you claim to know of Wikipedia, you should know about w:en:Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. If you think other usernames are inappropriate, feel free to bring them to our attention on the Admin-Notice-Boards. I don't see many useful edits here: Nonsense, talk, a handful of DR, and a way to long signature that doesn't fulfil any purpose besides confusing users. Anyway, I'd start by creating a useful signature instead of Bender speak. and wait for a reply by the blocking admin. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 07:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Unblock request

Unblock request declined This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without discussion. Request reason: "My username differs from an older name only by an accent. But the other account in question User:Bender Bending Rodriguez has not edited Wikimedia Commons for more than half a decade making just three edits (two in personal space)." Decline reason: "Per discussion above and failure of this request to rebut or approximately address the issue. A single accent is not sufficient differentiation; a reasonable person would only be expected to conflate the two accounts. If you desire to edit with Bender Bending Rodri(í)guez, you need to pursue usurpation, however unlikely its success may be (Bender Bending Rodriguez is an account in good standing, with a history of long periods of inactivity - e.g. a period between 3. November 2010 and 13. June 2012.) It also bears noting that adopting the persona of a fictional character (we understand the gimmick) does not shield you from our expectations of civility and a collegial atmosphere; for example: "Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves!" [5] "Bite my shiny metal ass" [6] "300 $1 hooker bots or 1 $300 hooker bot" [7] "I wish everyone else was dead!" [8] "kill all humans" [9] "Hasta la vista, Meatbag!" [10] "You're Serious? Let Me Laugh Even Harder!" [11] The selection of quotes suggests poor judgment--I'm frankly surprised it was not the reason for the block--and that perhaps it is best that the Bender persona is no longer available. Эlcobbola talk 16:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)" Administrators: This template should be removed when the block has expired.

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@Elcobbola: I have mentioned I have limited Bender's punch lines to personal space since an admin left a message on my talk. Also, I have mentioned that I am ready to use a consistent signature, which would not create any problems. @Jameslwoodward: What are the chances of usurpation being successful?
Neat 🍺💲🚬 16:59, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Low. I, for one, will oppose it, because it is clear that the your use of quotes from the robot is disruptive. At the moment you are a user in good standing and been invited to open an account in an appropriate name. I strongly suggest you do so.

If you push this farther you will probably find that one of the Admins here will conclude that you are a disruptive waste of our time who has made few useful contributions and will simply block you altogether. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: I have been renamed. Now will you unblock me?
Neat 🍺💲🚬 17:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Unblock request declined This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without discussion. Request reason: "Username has been changed" Decline reason: "No. en:Hubert Farnsworth is also character from Futurama. Don't try gaming the system. And your answer to civility issues mentioned by Elcobbola was not satisfactory. Taivo (talk) 10:10, 12 January 2017 (UTC)" Administrators: This template should be removed when the block has expired.

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@Taivo: I am not trying to game the system. There is no policy against the use of a fictional character's name as the username which was previously discussed. Besides, I am not even attempting to shield myself using this username. I wish to contribute to the project. I understand that my signature, and the edit comment has caused certain civility issues but I swear I am not going to do that again.
Neat 🍺💲🚬 20:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Yann, Krd, Ellin, Hedwig, Эlcobbola, Taivo, Revent -- I think that is everybody involved in this case. After several tries, the user has suggested the name "Canopus Grandiflora". It has two hits on Google, which the user says are former accounts of his. The combination appears to be innocent to me, so I am OK with it. How do you all feel about giving this user one more chance with that name? .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

It's OK for me. Taivo (talk) 11:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok for me. --Krd 11:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I have no problem with that username. - Revent^talk 12:03, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

• What are the Google hits to which you're refering? This Quora Canopus Grandiflora account says "Canopus Grandiflora Wikimedia", which, if one of the aforementioned accounts, may contradict the above claim "I am familiar with the Wiki Markup because I have edited Wikipedia a couple of years ago. I did not have an account then." [12] (emphasis mine). Obviously the name Canopus Grandiflora isn't registered, and I have no objection to the name, this just seems a curiosity perhaps worth addressing. Эlcobbola _talk 14:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

 Comment @Elcobbola: That bio "Wikimedia" was added to my Quora account last week (18th of January? Probably) when Jameslwoodward told me there were two accounts on the internet. I added it to Quora and Twitter account to assure that those accounts are mine.
Neat 🍺💲🚬 19:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Yann (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I think we have a quorum here -- go to it, User:Canopus Grandiflora. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:08, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Unblock request declined This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without discussion. Request reason: "account renamed to Canopus Grandiflora, which was approved by most of the admins." Decline reason: "Procedural decline: User already unblocked 17. February 2017. Updating to remove from unblock request cat. Эlcobbola talk 23:01, 2 March 2017 (UTC)" Administrators: This template should be removed when the block has expired.

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Deletion request

Hello, Regarding Commons:Deletion requests/File:Logo FC Bayern München.svg. The deletion request has been decided yet, please read the old closures and COM:L, COM:NCR and please refrain from re-opening the DR again. Thanks --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:50, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I have sent a mail to FC Bayern, let's wait for their reply.--guns & ROSES 13:58, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Just to be clear: It looks like you didn't read the aforementioned policy. They're reply is not relevant at all. If you re-open the DR again you might be blocked. --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Opening a DR a third time without a good reason might well get you blocked. Since there is strong opinion that the logo cannot have a copyright, there is nothing the club can say, short of giving a DMCA takedown notice that will change the logo's status here.

You will also be blocked if you do not change your sig -- "The signature must unambiguously identify the author of a comment...". Stick with the default signature until you build a good history of being a solid citizen instead of a nuisance. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:26, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Your current deletion campaign

Please see Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Mass deletion attempt ongoing by Canopus Grandiflora. Prioryman (talk) 23:09, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Just in time. I was almost done for the day.--Canopus Grandiflora 23:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Freedom of Panorama

Hi dear, i don't really understand your - and several other administrators - deletion champaign and the heavy effort you're spending to delete some useful images assuming freedom of photography is not granted. but i do have an official Saudi Ministry of Information document based on a royal decree that garantees the freedom of photography for all public places, unless prohibited by a clear 4 meter sign. Document.

Myself and may be other people as well feel very disappointed when we wake up the next morning and find our pictures have been deleted for no clear reason and appreciate your step-in to support. Ammar shaker (talk) 14:22, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

If you think that document is authentic, you should update COM:FOP. If you think my rationales are not valid, the administrators who are responsible for the deletion explains the case.--Canopus Grandiflora 09:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, i updated the Saudi Arabia's Section with the new 2006 Royal Decree. Ammar shaker (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@Ammar shaker: (just chimed in while browsing uncategorized KSA no FOP case pages) if the document states that photography is allowed unless prohibited by a sign, then that is useless. Photography is free even in our country, even if we do not have freedom of panorama right now.

The context of freedom of panorama is that a copyrighted public work (by a living or recently-deceased artist or architect) can be freely photographed or videographed and the resulting reproductions of those public artworks can be freely used commercially, without the need to ask for license from the artists or their heirs if they are already dead (architecture is a type of visual art). FOP is explicit in several countries like the COM:FOP United Kingdom and COM:FOP Hungary, but in your country, your law does not contain a provision that states 'reproduction or representation in pictorial of works permanently situated in public places is not a copyright infringement'. Taking photos of buildings and monuments is just copying those - in 2D form. Unless the law is reformed and updated, all images of recent public works must require commercial license permission from the architects or artists (via COM:VRTS correspondence). Non-commercial license or fair use license is forbidden in Commons. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC)